Often, it is a particular subject that gets a conversation going when meeting someone for the first time. What was/is yours ? JL: It tends to be more spiritual than materialistic. For most people I've ended up working with, whether it's music or art, it was more of an emotional context or relationship. Earn and me have a more personal relationship in that way, that's how it developed into doing what we did - it wasn't a business idea. For me that's the most important thing to have an organic style of relationship. Whether that's with Ben (Drury), or Will (Bankhead) or 3D or Shadow, or any of those people - it tended to be much more about that. EC: James is very similar to myself. We discussed about the art, toys, music, fashion and most importantly about LIFE. EC: James is a very spiritual person and we connected on that spiritual level. In a way, he has inspired me to do what I do now and just being around him, I have absorbed a lot of positive energy in a creative way. James, people have been waiting for you to start your own clothing label or art gallery... what took you so long ?! JL: What took me so long? I've just been busy doing other things really. You must have had it pitched to you a thousand times ? I didn't though! That's the weird thing with Earn, because Earn asked me and it sounded like a good idea. And I suppose fear... you know, I haven't grasped it completely yet.